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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Creador: Richard Ostler

Welcome to our podcast! My name is Richard H. Ostler and I am a native of Salt Lake City, small business owner, married father of six with several grandchildren. I believe in and am deeply committed to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and want it to work for a wider group. I am t...

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Episode 903: Jeanette Griggs, New Book “Be True”

Episode 903: Jeanette Griggs, New Book “Be True”

My friend Jeanette Griggs (mid 40’s, engaged to her future wife, decades of faithful service) joins us to bravely share her story about her long road...

2026-06-14 15:24:32 00:56:13
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Episode 902: Becca Moore, Transgender Latter-day Saint

Episode 902: Becca Moore, Transgender Latter-day Saint

My friend Becca Moore—who had a strong testimony—bravely shares the difficult road she faces as a transgender Latter-day Saint. Being transgender and...

2026-06-12 15:36:41 01:10:34
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Episode 901: Sid Bassett, Returned Mission President, New Podcast: “Return Missionary Next Chapters”

Episode 901: Sid Bassett, Returned Mission President, New Podcast: “Return Missionary Next Chapters”

My friend Sid Bassett (married father of four, retired business executive, licensed clinical mental health councilor) and his wife Stephanie recently...

2026-06-09 07:30:59 01:02:06
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Episode 900: Jenn Zingmark – Finding Faith, Healing, and Hope After Divorce

Episode 900: Jenn Zingmark – Finding Faith, Healing, and Hope After Divorce

Jenn Zingmark joins us to share her deeply personal journey through divorce, faith, healing, and rebuilding. Jenn is an active Latter-day Saint, wife,...

2026-06-06 23:03:20 00:44:02
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Episode 899: Steven Mark Trier,  Excommunicated Gay Former Mormon

Episode 899: Steven Mark Trier, Excommunicated Gay Former Mormon

** Why would I have an excommunicated gay former Mormon on the podcast? Well, I’ve learned that my excommunicated friends are usually good people—of...

2026-06-03 14:52:52 01:22:19
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Episode 898: Amie Steele, LDS Mother Supporting Her Two Gay Sons

Episode 898: Amie Steele, LDS Mother Supporting Her Two Gay Sons

My friend Amie Steele talks about her powerful new Substack (see show notes) sharing their journey (along with her husband Randy) to love and support...

2026-05-31 15:36:56 01:15:06
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Episode 897: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode Three

Episode 897: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode Three

My friend Greg Prince (writer, scientist, businessman, philanthropist—see bio at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Prince) joins us to talk about...

2026-05-28 05:30:46 01:22:31
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Episode 896: Jeff and Michael McLean, New Book “Stay in the Room”

Episode 896: Jeff and Michael McLean, New Book “Stay in the Room”

My friends, Jeff McLean (same-sex marriage, nationally known performer, vocal coach, author), Michael McLean (famous LDS songwriter, composer, playwri...

2026-05-24 15:12:31 01:33:28
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Episode 895: Kelsey Wells, Gay Latter-day Saint,  Upcoming Same-Sex Marriage

Episode 895: Kelsey Wells, Gay Latter-day Saint, Upcoming Same-Sex Marriage

My friend Kelsey Well (who was on Episode 815) joins us to update her story. Kelsey (former EFY counselor and seminary teacher, active Latter-day Sa...

2026-05-22 04:37:54 01:05:59
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Episode 894:  Rod Gardner,  Drug Addiction (Lost Dental Practice, Excommunicated, Prison),  New Book “Second Chance Again”

Episode 894: Rod Gardner, Drug Addiction (Lost Dental Practice, Excommunicated, Prison), New Book “Second Chance Again”

In one of our bravest, raw, and most vulnerable episodes, my friend Rod Gardner (married father of 5, lives in Northern Utah, dentist, age 60) shares...

2026-05-19 15:45:34 01:19:28
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Episode 893: Wilson Privado, BYU Master Graduate, RM, Queer, From El Salvador

Episode 893: Wilson Privado, BYU Master Graduate, RM, Queer, From El Salvador

My friend Wilson Privado (BYU Master’s Degree in school psychology, BYU-Idaho undergrad, RM Salt Lake City Mission, Queer, Age 29) joins us to share h...

2026-05-17 05:52:59 01:00:29
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Episode 892: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode Two

Episode 892: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode Two

My friend Greg Prince (writer, scientist, businessman, philanthropist—see bio at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Prince) joins us to talk about...

2026-05-15 04:40:27 01:17:31
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Episode 891: Amy Thelin — Bisexual Latter-day Saint, Upcoming Same-Sex Marriage

Episode 891: Amy Thelin — Bisexual Latter-day Saint, Upcoming Same-Sex Marriage

My friend Amy Thelin (who grew up in Virginia, served in Tahiti Papeete Mission, taught at the Missionary Training Center, and graduated from Brigham...

2026-05-13 04:21:38 01:02:06
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Episode 890: Dilyn Eyerly, Bisexual Queer Latter-day Saint

Episode 890: Dilyn Eyerly, Bisexual Queer Latter-day Saint

My friend Dilyn Eyerly (student at Utah Valley University, age 31, RM, active LDS) joins us to share her story. Dilyn talks about growing up and re...

2026-05-11 05:50:29 01:18:30
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Episode 889:  Chad Call, Executive Director Utah Price

Episode 889: Chad Call, Executive Director Utah Price

My friend Chad Call (late 30s, gay, former business/event executive, bridge builder) joins us to share his story. Chad talks about growing up in Kay...

2026-05-10 04:33:08 01:11:59
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Episode 888: Amanda Wilkinson, New Book:  "Walking With Grace: A Memoir In Two Voices"

Episode 888: Amanda Wilkinson, New Book: "Walking With Grace: A Memoir In Two Voices"

Our guest today is Amanda Wilkinson — speaker, author, leadership consultant, and mother of five — joining us to talk about her new book "Walking with...

2026-05-07 07:00:47 01:08:27
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Episode 887: Javier Aguilar, Bisexual BYU Student,  Non-English Focused LGBTQ Podcast

Episode 887: Javier Aguilar, Bisexual BYU Student, Non-English Focused LGBTQ Podcast

My friend Javier “VJ” Aguilar (RM, from Mexico/Texas, Age 25, Current BYU Student) joins us to share his story. Javier talks about his journey to unde...

2026-05-05 18:53:19 00:59:43
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Episode 886: Stephanie, Life Story Through Music

Episode 886: Stephanie, Life Story Through Music

My friend Stephanie (early 50s, active LDS) joins us to bravely share her story:

Abuse survivor, early trauma
Attempted suicide su...

2026-05-03 16:00:44 00:58:49
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Episode 885:  Emily Groves, Age 18, Lesbian, Blind, Super Brave, Episode Two

Episode 885: Emily Groves, Age 18, Lesbian, Blind, Super Brave, Episode Two

**Note: In this episode, Emily talks about being blind. In her prior episode (877), Emily talked about being a Lesbian**

My friend Em...

2026-05-01 14:51:18 00:51:13
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Episode 884: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode One

Episode 884: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode One

My friend Greg Price (writer, scientist, businessman, philanthropist—see bio at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Prince) joins us to talk about...

2026-04-28 04:43:57 01:18:21
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Episode 883: Daniel Carter and Devan Jensen, New Church Hymn “Long Ago, Within a Garden”

Episode 883: Daniel Carter and Devan Jensen, New Church Hymn “Long Ago, Within a Garden”

My friends Daniel Carter and Devan Jensen join us to share the story behind the beautiful new hymn “Long Ago, Within a Garden,” with text by Devan and...

2026-04-26 23:23:02 01:06:55
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Episode 882:  Jeff Strong, New Book “Torn:  Why People We Love Are Leaving the Church and What We Can Learn From Them”

Episode 882: Jeff Strong, New Book “Torn: Why People We Love Are Leaving the Church and What We Can Learn From Them”

My friend Jeff Strong (married father of five, grandfather, former mission president, retired senior executive consumer goods) join us to talk about h...

2026-04-24 15:44:40 01:13:53
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Episode 881: Duane Jennings, Longtime LGBTQ Advocate, Author

Episode 881: Duane Jennings, Longtime LGBTQ Advocate, Author

My friend Duane Jennings (gay, same-sex marriage, mid-60’s, RM from South Africa, Affirmation Leader for 15+ years, author “Stumbling Blocks and Stepp...

2026-04-22 03:44:22 01:02:30
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Episode 880: Eli McCann, New Book “We’re Thankful for the Moisture”

Episode 880: Eli McCann, New Book “We’re Thankful for the Moisture”

My friend Eli McCann (lawyer, University of Utah Law School adjunct professor, Equality Utah and The Road Home board member, married to husband Skylar...

2026-04-20 13:43:23 00:57:10
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Episode 879: Josh Otani, Therapist To Heal from Sexual Shame, Betrayal Trauma, Etc

Episode 879: Josh Otani, Therapist To Heal from Sexual Shame, Betrayal Trauma, Etc

My friend Josh Otani (Master’s Degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from Utah State University and a Bachelor’s in Psychology with a minor in Family...

2026-04-17 16:46:10 00:57:51
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Episode 878:  Andy and Stephanie Pedersen, Andy’s Talk In Church About Supporting LGBTQ Latter-day Saints

Episode 878: Andy and Stephanie Pedersen, Andy’s Talk In Church About Supporting LGBTQ Latter-day Saints

My friends Andy and Stephanie (LDS parents of 4; living in Vancouver, Washington) join us to share their story. Andy starts with the talk he gave in...

2026-04-14 05:20:32 00:41:34
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Episode 877: Emily Groves, Age 18, Lesbian, Blind, Super Brave

Episode 877: Emily Groves, Age 18, Lesbian, Blind, Super Brave

**Note: In this episode, Emily talks about being lesbian. In a future episode, Emily talks about being blind**

My friend Emily Groves...

2026-04-11 20:56:40 00:54:51
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Episode 876:  Gabby Rich, Lesbian Latter-day Saint, Teacher, Age 28

Episode 876: Gabby Rich, Lesbian Latter-day Saint, Teacher, Age 28

My friend Gabby Rich (Brazil RM, BYU-Idaho graduate, day care teacher, from Anacortes, Washington) joins us to bravely share her story:

*...

2026-04-08 04:44:00 01:07:50
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Episode 875: Magnum Davis, Gay Latter-day Saint, Age 18

Episode 875: Magnum Davis, Gay Latter-day Saint, Age 18

My friend Magnum Davis (High School Senior/Utah County, out to family/friends for over 3 years) joins us to bravely share his story:

* Pa...

2026-04-06 03:30:38 01:30:01
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Episode 874: Soren Nielsen, Gay Latter-day Saint, Recent RM

Episode 874: Soren Nielsen, Gay Latter-day Saint, Recent RM

My friend Soren Neilsen (age 21, Sacramento California RM, from Michigan, University of Utah student) joins us to share his story:

* Real...

2026-04-02 17:25:47 01:26:36
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Episode 873: Kade Smith (gay, overcoming addictions) and Terri Smith (Kade’s mother)

Episode 873: Kade Smith (gay, overcoming addictions) and Terri Smith (Kade’s mother)

My friends Kade Smith (age 38, lives in San Diego, married to husband Chris for 9 years) and Terri Smith (LDS married mother of 4 sons) join us to sha...

2026-03-29 06:49:20 01:19:03
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Episode 872:  Laurie Reese, LDS Mother of Two Gay Children

Episode 872: Laurie Reese, LDS Mother of Two Gay Children

My friend Laurie Reese (married mother of five, one grandchild, active LDS) joins us to share her story based on a recent talk she gave in her Ward:

2026-03-26 18:10:36 01:00:05
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Episode 871: Candice Bithell, LDS Mother of a Transgender Son

Episode 871: Candice Bithell, LDS Mother of a Transgender Son

My friend Candice Bithell (married mother of three, active LDS) joins us to share her story:

Candice’s backstory
Bones (her transg...

2026-03-20 16:09:43 01:00:02
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Episode 870: Douglas Williams,  OCD and Scrupulosity

Episode 870: Douglas Williams, OCD and Scrupulosity

My friend Douglas Williams (President of the Real OCD Club and the Un Alone Club at BYU; dual-major at BYU, RM, MTC Teacher) joins us to share his jou...

2026-03-17 04:25:48 00:57:01
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Episode 869: Gracee Purcell, Lesbian Latter-day Saint,  Recent BYU Grad,

Episode 869: Gracee Purcell, Lesbian Latter-day Saint, Recent BYU Grad,

My friend Gracee Purcell (BYU Psychology Grad, President of RaYnbow Collective, Activist, Engaged to be Married) joins us to share her story at BYU:

2026-03-13 07:09:25 00:53:46
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Episode 868:  Bruce Butcher, Lost Son Taylor to Suicide,  God’s Love/Hope For All of Us

Episode 868: Bruce Butcher, Lost Son Taylor to Suicide, God’s Love/Hope For All of Us

** This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text chat 988 **



My friend Bruce Butcher (late 50s,...

2026-03-09 14:11:18 01:01:02
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Episode 867:  Heather Sorensen, Grief of Losing Her Daughter Hannah at Age 15, New Book

Episode 867: Heather Sorensen, Grief of Losing Her Daughter Hannah at Age 15, New Book

My friend Heather Sorensen (married mother of 4; grandmother of 14, early morning seminary teacher), joins us to share her story of losing her daughte...

2026-03-05 21:56:31 01:02:04
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Episode 865:  Dr. Mark White, Being an Ally, Book:  Indigo’s Baptism

Episode 865: Dr. Mark White, Being an Ally, Book: Indigo’s Baptism

My friend Mark White (professor, LMFT, aspiring ally, mid-60s, active LDS) joins us to talk about his new children’s book—which is focused on an 8-yea...

2026-03-01 05:44:39 00:54:59
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Episode 865:  Eliza Riggs, RM, Bi-Sexual Latter-day Saint, Non-Traumatic Queer Faith, Powerful Story

Episode 865: Eliza Riggs, RM, Bi-Sexual Latter-day Saint, Non-Traumatic Queer Faith, Powerful Story

My friend Eliza Riggs (age 22, RM/Orem Utah, UVU Student) joins us to share her story including:

Great Parents, Queer Friendly Home

2026-02-26 02:37:17 01:13:28
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Episode 864:  Richard Ostler Episode on Tate Arnold’s Over___Soul Show

Episode 864: Richard Ostler Episode on Tate Arnold’s Over___Soul Show

I was invited to be on my friend Tate Arnold’s show (Over___Soul) to share my story. I’ve posted that show as Episode 864 on our platform so you co...

2026-02-19 07:35:03 01:48:21
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